PES 2013

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Co prawda nie ma jeszcze żadnego oficjalnego info(z tym musimy poczekać tydzień lub dwa), natomiast są już pierwsze przecieki. Oddaję teraz głos Adamowi z WENB:

"Guys, I'm going to be teasing b@stard, but you'll be without me most of next week as I'm demoing our biggest Ubisoft titles at press and retail events until around Thursday. So I'll be off from this post until then.

So anyway, PES 2013 is shaping up really REALLY nicely. I'll be honest, I have this reserved approach to it all, because its very different to what it was supposed to be. I need to snap out of it, because I'm unintentionally underselling it, and perhaps making your expectations lower naturally.

Now some of you might welcome this approach, but overall it's kind of like refereeing against a player who jumps around a lot who goes down under a clear challenge for a penalty. Predetermined judgement can impact your quality of officiating. Hopefully you get what I'm trying to say.

So anyway, PES 2013 answers so much of what we wanted, plus that little bit extra. Keepers Shooting Passing . Adjustments to a magnitude of different gameplay elements has created a fantastic experience, so much so I'm finding it hard not to start expecting a high quality football game. Think realistic player control, new attributes created to factor in defensive ability and ball control.

Hell even the animations. Now I'm not talking about FIFA levels of overall movement and presentation, but I am talking another bump up in quality from PES 2012. Think a silly variety of individuality in this respect, too.

And, along with this, some massive breakthroughs in correcting various issues within game modes that have hindered the potential. Yes, very cryptic, but right now I have to be.

With me being away, the podcast is up in the air for next week. Suff and Alan could potentially do something, but I'm thinking a week out, and then lets hit big the week after with hints and much more.

So have a good week, and we'll get talking as soon as I'm back.

Speak soon."

 

[MGS]

Niech sie zlituja i dadza w koncu mozliwosc wyboru zwyklej kamery
Radykalne zmiany w ustawieniach taktyki tez sie przydadza bo kursor myszki doprowadza mnie juz do silnej nerwicy 

[yap]

To jest największa bolączka poprzednich odsłon. Było dobrze - spartolili. Ani to praktyczne, ani fajne. Moim zdaniem ustawienia formacji w 2010, poruszanie się po menu i listach zawodników były najwygodniejsze. Do tego udoskonalać gameplay z 2012 i jest hit. A...i licencje kuna fak, licencje.

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Kolejne przecieki z WENB:

Individuality means so much more these days than just the player feel or how they perform an action. It's how they do such a thing, too. It's almost like Konami 'get' individuality again, thanks to so much focused and also vague feedback.

They've even included a key element into the game, that is not only a gamechanger of sorts, but something that is fundamental to football in real life.

Let's see who answers this correctly: what is the most important aspect of being an excellent footballer?

Padło trochę odpowiedzi w tym ta poprawna:

Control, touch and technique when controlling etc then i guess.

Po niej kolejna odpowiedź z strony Adama który mimo że ma embargo to od czasu do czasu raczy Nas kolejnymi niusami:

Bingo!

First touch.

The most important aspect in football. It starts the beginning of any move. To pass, to shoot etc, it stems from the player bringing the ball under control.

Currently in PES, players know over the years R2 has been the button that dictates first touch. It's been marginalised over the years, and makes a MASSIVE comeback this year. Not only stat based, but a key element in PES 2013.

More on this when the game is announced.

Zapowiedź gry ma być pod koniec kwietnia/początek maja. Dla mnie brzmi to barrrdzo interesująco, bo to co napisane jest powyżej oznacza że popracowali nad fizyką i animacją. Do tego ten aspekt od dawna nie był już ujęty w grze piłkarskiej(od czasów PES na poprzednią generacje). 

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Na oficjalnej stronie przez chwile dziś było widać model Krystyny(wykonany tak że to kolejny krok w stronę fotorealizmu..Fifa nawet nie może tu stać obok). Jutro około godz. 11 prawdopodobnie poznamy pierwszy trailer czy zapowiedź gry. Tu wszelkie info:

http://winningelevenblog.com/blog/official-site-teases-new-cr7-2/

A jutro zapraszam tu:

http://www.konami-pes2013.com/

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Update(przywiązanie do detali):

[wsciekly_blondyn]

Ogladanie fotek mnie nie jara czekam na gameplay i prezentacje nowego silnika tym bardziej (jesli to FOX Enigine) jak zrobia animacje biegu jaką ma CR7 to 

[Druchal]

Czekam z niecierpliwością.

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Właściwy trailer 24 kwietnia. A to taki smaczek(teaser):

[wsciekly_blondyn]

Właściwy trailer 24 kwietnia. A to taki smaczek(teaser):

co to za song

[Ma_niek]

Z tym nowym silnikiem to pewniak?. Bo moze wkoncu do Pesa bym wrocil jesli to prawda.

[nakimushi]

no napewno nowy silnik zrobili pod koniec konca generacji 

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Nie zrobili nowego silnika, tzn. miał być, ale odłożyli go(i dopracują go) na nową generację. Także ten PES powstaję na tym samym silniku co PES 2011 i PES 2012.

[wsciekly_blondyn]

Ronaldo dobrze Pesa zareklamowal...

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KCET bardzo dobrze go odwzorowało:


Z tego co mi wiadomo to własnie w tym roku skupili się na indywidualności największych graczy, więc podobnego przywiązania do detali można spodziewać się u innych wielkich.

Do tego dodam info o potwierdzeniu przez KCET manualnych podań i strzałów i zrobionych na nowo bramkarzach.

"Dear PES-players,
We're writing to you as you participated – along with tens of thousands of other dedicated PES players from around the world – in our feedback survey.

We are changing and improving many features and aspects of PES this year and most of them have been specifically requested by fans like you.

We want to personally express our gratitude for your support and explain to you how your input has influenced this year’s development.

For example, you rated goalkeepers slightly above average to good – in other words: not good enough for PES. A common complaint about goalies concerned the lack of animations. Many of you also criticized how long it takes to bring the ball back into play after the goalkeeper catches the ball. To address the situation we sought advice from pro keepers and worked hard on AI. The result: far more options, many new animations and even different play styles.

Another example of how your feedback helped: many of you stated you prefer playing PES 2012 without use of any pass support. This inspired us to enable optional full manual passing and shooting. Thanks to new PES FullControl you can precisely place shots exactly where you want - if you can master the skills required of course!"

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Oficjalna nota prasowa:

PES 2013: A Whole New Ball Game

Individuality and Full Control the key as PES 2013 moves the goalposts

Konami Digital Entertainment GmbH will offer football fans an unprecedented level of control, when its PES 2013 title returns to the field this Autumn.

As befits a game endorsed by Cristiano Ronaldo – a player who embodies the skill and grace of top level football – PES 2013 sees the series returning to its roots, with the emphasis on the individual skills of the world’s best players, and giving the player the total freedom to play any style of ball, to any team mate, anywhere on the pitch. This follows further consultation with both football and PES fans alike, and the result is the most faithful recreation of modern day football to date, with players modeled to match the running motions, abilities and playing styles, and the flicks and turns of their real-life counterparts.

Three key elements form the basis of PES 2013’s innovations, with all new additions falling within the fields of PES FullControl, Player ID, and ProActive AI.

PES FullControl (PES FC): Never before has a football game offered such a level of control over the way it is played:

• Total Freedom of Control: PES 2012 introduced the concept of freedom of movement, with players making better runs through improved AI. The new ‘PES FC’ in PES 2013 goes further with total freedom over ball control.

• Dynamic First Touch: PES 2013 introduces subtle ways to receive the ball, from traps, gently lifting it past an attacker to run on to. First touch is everything and players can trap the ball using the R2 button, killing the speed of a well-hit pass and bringing it instantly under control, or using the momentum of the pass to turn a defender.

• Full Manual Passing and Full Manual Shooting: PES 2013 offers fully manual passing and shooting, allowing users to determine the height and power of each. Long low passes can be sent skimming across the pitch, while using L2 while shooting will give the user total control over where the pass or shot is placed. Skill and precision are needed to master these, but passes can be made into open areas, allowing lone strikers to thrive, while offering an unrivalled variety in ways to score.

• Dribbling: The speed with which a player moves with the ball has been slowed in line with real matches, but using R2 allows players to add various styles to their close control. Players can vary the speed of their dribbling, and cushion the ball as they move freely within a 360-degree circle. The new system allows players to knock a ball past a player and collect it, nutmeg them, or hold up play by shielding the ball as team mates find space and make runs.

• Full Manual One-Two: Active one-two passes can be made, with the second player being moved in any direction, facilitating various tactical movements.

• Response Defending: Countering the attacking options the new dribbling system offers, is a beautifully-balanced defence system. Players can use R2 and X to slow an attack, with a double-tap of the X button prompting a perfectly-timed challenge. Full 360-degree control means that players can check runs and steal the ball from a parallel position, while the individuality element will see world renowned defenders using aerial dominance of physicality to win the ball.

• Goalkeepers: Even the game’s ‘keepers benefit from more control, while their distribution is more precise thanks to the addition of a power gauge when they throw the ball, creating opportunities for new, quicker counter attacks.

Player ID: Player ID focuses on the individual elements and movements that each player boasts:

• Player Individuality: The very best players in PES 2013 will be instantly recognisable via incredible likeness and signature attributes that bring them to life. The way they run, turn, trap and move the ball, shoot and even celebrate will be noticeably different during play. Midfielders and defenders will move and track back mimicking the exact styles of the real thing, while strikers will shape to shoot just like the real thing.

• The individuality of movement has also been extended to between the posts. Goal keeping has been totally invigorated via new animations and play styles. New varieties of saves and reactions have been added to ensure the game’s ‘keepers are in line with the efforts of real shot stoppers. This level of realism also extends to the game’s top-rated goal keepers, with their moves to close attacks down, fling themselves to tip a shot past the post, and in-goal acrobatics benefiting from all new animations and AI.

ProActive AI: ProActive AI unites the control and realism, with players that will respond and find space as befits those at the top of their game:

• Balance of Play: The development team has worked closely with the PES fan base to eradicate any illogical elements to the way players move and run in PES 2013, with the ‘ProActive AI’ system enhancing the attack/defence balance elements, proper zonal movements to the defending unit to remove bunching in all areas, setting a harder to beat defensive line, and allowing for quicker counters from the wing-backs.

• Tactical Precision: The balance of play has also been enhanced in the play between defences and the front line, with greater organisation as the teams track back or pelt forward. This means players are set up to exploit space with quick counter attacks,

• Goalkeepers: Improvements to the goal keepers was voted the key advancement football fans wanted to see in PES 2013, and the team has worked hard with real keepers to ensure they respond with better reactions, pull off reflex saves, clear their lines effectively,.

PES 2013 will also boast better connectivity and atmosphere. The popular myPES application will extend the connectivity and communication between Facebook-using PES fans, while the game’s audio effects are being tied closer to the on-field action to provide the kind of buzz seen at top-tier matches, with crowds growing in excitement as their team starts to exert pressure.

“This is an exciting time to be part of the PES community, and PES 2013 marks a new level of control and a return to our key ethos of utter control and freedom,” commented Jon Murphy, European PES Team Leader. “PES 2013 will offer a new level of realism, with players on field no longer all running in the same manner, or making the same kinds of passes. Football is all about making magic happen with skill and precision, and PES 2013 truly encapsulates this. Fresh faces within the development team and some very exciting ideas will breathe new life into the PES series, and we look forward to showing what we can do in the coming months.”

I parę screenów:

http://winningelevenblog.com/blog/pes2013-first-screens/

[Tomasz]

Raczej rendery

[Tomasz]

Nie zrobili nowego silnika, tzn. miał być, ale odłożyli go(i dopracują go) na nową generację. Także ten PES powstaję na tym samym silniku co PES 2011 i PES 2012.

[Ma_niek]

A zalozymy sie ze na nowej konsoli bedzie gowno a nie nowy silnik?. Przypomnij sobie jak bylo na premiere ps2 i XO.

[MGS]

A zalozymy sie ze na nowej konsoli bedzie gowno a nie nowy silnik?. Przypomnij sobie jak bylo na premiere ps2 i XO.

Nowy silnik niczego nie gwarantuje. Pierwsza edycja na PS2 jechala na starym z PSXa, ale byl na tyle poprawiony ze robil niezle wrazenie. O tym jak wygladal 2008 mimo nowego silnika chyba nie musze pisac 

[wsciekly_blondyn]

A zalozymy sie ze na nowej konsoli bedzie gowno a nie nowy silnik?. Przypomnij sobie jak bylo na premiere ps2 i XO.

Ja jednak zakladam ,ze bedzie nie po to KONAMI wylozylo wielkie miliony na FOX'a,zeby na nastepnej generacji robic na starym silniku gry takie jak MGS i wiele innych

[novy]

NHL > Fifa > <Madden > PESik.

Grałem w PES3 całkiem sporo. Ale póxniej konami na laurach osiadło.

[wsciekly_blondyn]

NHL > Fifa > <Madden > PESik.

Grałem w PES3 całkiem sporo. Ale póxniej konami na laurach osiadło.

cool story bro...

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[novy]

Thx. PES nowego nie kupię, ale Maddena juz zamawiam.

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Wrazenia z playtestu:

http://winningelevenblog.com/blog/wenb-pes-2013-playtest-impressions/

Niebawem na oficjalnej stronie, screeny i info.

[wsciekly_blondyn]

nic specjalnego

[Master_666]

Super, kolejna gra piłkarska wyglądająca jak wszystkie pozostałe z początku generacji. Kupuję na premierze.

[MGS]

Jestes pewien ?



Zreszta nie o to chodzi. Graficznie niewiele juz mozna poprawic wzgledem 2012. Pozostaje szlifowac gameplay. Tu co roku robia spory postep.

[Ma_niek]

Znow to samo za cene pelnej gry. Przynajmniej nowy Pes na ps4 bedzie na nowym silniku, wtedy pewnie kupie. A teraz zlodzieje niech znow maja najgorsza sprzedaz od lat.

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@ Master

Słuchałeś podcastu, przecież na tym trailerze nie ma nawet 1/10 rzeczy które były w preview w Brazyli, w tym np. tego że 50 największych gwiazd będzie miało swoje odrębne ruchy, sztuczki, strzały, gesty. Poza tym poczekajmy na gameplay z E3. Zaś sam CR7 rusza się i wygląda jak w relacji tv.

Zresztą sam trailer nawet źle odbiera Adam z WENB(a w tym roku ma spory udział w Pes 2013) i tu jego krytyka do Konami:

Adam 'Pippo' Bhatti
#PES2013 trailer is weak. Very weak. Could have been done so much better. Look forward to a big improvement next week.

Konami UK
@Adam_Bhatti Why? It's explaining the new features, which it does very well. Do you want some more CGI stuff that isn't like in-game?

Adam 'Pippo' Bhatti ‏
@KonamiUK No, I'm pretty sure I didn't say anything about CGI. No need for that. WE United & PES Untied? Poor examples of keepers? etc

Konami UK ‏
@Adam_Bhatti You know about the planning that has to go into using official teams so that's why the WE and PES teams are used in this.

Adam 'Pippo' Bhatti ‏
@KonamiUK Yeh I do, sure, but if coming out of E3 all we see is WE and PES United I'd be very surprised.

Konami UK ‏
@Adam_Bhatti Plus you know there are more trailers airing, shouldn't you wait until you've seen them all before passing judgement?

Adam 'Pippo' Bhatti ‏
@KonamiUK judgement on the game? I judged the first trailer, not PES's entire E3 showing. Like I said, I expect more from now.

Konami UK ‏
@Adam_Bhatti We didn't say passing judgement on the game, just passing any judgement when you know this is only one part of the E3 info.

Adam 'Pippo' Bhatti ‏
@KonamiUK I'm free judge a trailer on it's own merit. I know Konami have big E3 plans, but doesn't hide the fact I dislike that trailer.

Zresztą za tydzień ma dojść sporo nowego stuffu odnośnie PES 2013.

[MGS]

Znow to samo za cene pelnej gry. Przynajmniej nowy Pes na ps4 bedzie na nowym silniku, wtedy pewnie kupie. A teraz zlodzieje niech znow maja najgorsza sprzedaz od lat.

A konkurecja co zrobila ostatnio? Zje**** kolizje, utrudnili obrone i zmienili cyferke w tytule...

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Znow to samo za cene pelnej gry. Przynajmniej nowy Pes na ps4 bedzie na nowym silniku, wtedy pewnie kupie. A teraz zlodzieje niech znow maja najgorsza sprzedaz od lat.

A konkurecja co zrobila ostatnio? Zje**** kolizje, utrudnili obrone i zmienili cyferke w tytule...

Do tego dodali zje*** animacje(hokej na trawie?).

[Ma_niek]

Konkurencja tez u uja tnie. Trzeba czekac na nowego Pesa na Fox Engine.

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Jeszcze nie widzieli gameplayu a już takie opinie.

Co prawda mocne uderzenie czeka Nas za rok, ale i w tym roku jestem pewien że dostaniemy dobrego szpila.

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Póki co, część z listy 50 zawodników którzy zostali potwierdzeni w Player ID i to co widział(Adam z WENB) na preview w Brazyli.

Ronaldo (all motions)
Messi (movement animation & behaviour)
Neymar (dangle foot over the ball)
Terry (diving torpedo)
Ribery (unique 360 spin technique)
Robben (running style)
Kaka (running style)
Iniesta (tight dribbling)
Xavi (180 degrees R2 turn)

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E3 trailer:

[blach0r]

Trailer jak trailer, ale już widać że fizyczne archaizmy zostały (bramkarz dostający megaboosta przy wyskoku, 'pływanie' w dryblingu).

[wsciekly_blondyn]

http://winningelevenblog.com/blog/pes-2013-e3-la-liga-stadium-dlc/
Konami pokazalo Capcomowi ,że można nie brać za wszystko ka$y
ps.lol w te animacje wyglądają jak z 6 części nie wiem tylko czy to dobrze czy żle...

[MGS]

Nie przesadzaj :].
Napewno nie wyglada to gorzej niz tu
 

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U konkurencji pilkarze dalej sprawiaj wrazenie szmacianych lalek 

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Preview OPM UK:

For those who have kept the faith, 2013 could well be the year PES rockets back to those dazzling PS2-era highs. That snappy, on-rails feel from 2012? Gone. Players now move smoothly across the playing surface, tilting and weaving with a delicious human roundedness.
 
Canned ball animations? Nope. Now it sprays about the place with unpredictable authenticity, pinging off shins, bobbling along the turf, arcing through the air like, you know, a ball, instead of a torpedo.
 
The overall impression is that PES 2013 has finally, brilliantly, gone back to its simulation roots, ditching the zippy arcade feel of recent instalments and serving up an experience that feels slower, more reactive, and crucially, more like real football.

http://www.officialplaystationmagazine.co.uk/2012/06/05/pes-2013-hands-on-preview-how-it-could-beat-fifa-this-year/