Mass Effect 2

[lupinator]

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/05/15/mass-effect-2-video-shows-us-the-darker-side-of-things/

jest i gameplay

[Unlimited]

Kolejny Must Have! 

[grami]

Zapowiada się...kosmos . Komu jeszcze jeden z motywów (wyjście na powierzchnię gdzie panują braki w atmosferze) przypomniał "brak grawitacji" z dead space? Będzie dobrze, to już wiadomo, czekam na E3.

[lupinator]

Ciekawią mnie słowa, że jeśli zabiliśmy kogoś w jedynce, to nie będzie go w dwójce - o ile pojedyncze jednostki rozumiem, to ciekawe czy odnosi się to też do rady?

[mateo]

oby owe dzieło trafiło na PS3.. :]

[POK]

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/05/15/mass-effect-2-video-shows-us-the-darker-side-of-things/

jest i gameplay

no nareszcie jakiś gameplay

Pobieżnie można powiedzieć, że wygląda troszkę lepiej niż jedynka, ciekawe jak będzie z animacją.

[mateo]

Przydałby się taki next-genowy Metroid Prime. oj marzenie..

[nakimushi]

kurde kupie tego kloca 2 raz dla tej gry     czad normalnie !!!

[Zielarz]

A ja wczoraj prosiłem o screeny . Dlaczego ME2 wychodzi dopiero w następnym roku .

[Piter_neo]

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/05/15/mass-effect-2-video-shows-us-the-darker-side-of-things/

jest i gameplay

Zdecydowanie nie podoba mi się to, że gra ma być bardziej mroczna.

[Mr_Zombie]

Niech mi tylko oddadzą mojego Sheparda, to będę szczęśliwy. Przywiązałem się do faceta i trudno będzie mi stworzyć sobie nową postać


Normandia...
Ale jeŻeli ten ktoś przeŻył wybuch będąc na dole... moŻe reszta załogi równieŻ przeŻyła.

[Piter_neo]

Mam nadzieję, że z gry nie zrobią strzelaninki.

[Niebieski]

Jak uśmiercą moją ulubioną quarianke to zabije!

[FAX]

W jedynce było tyle wyborów, że nie wiem jak oni z tego wyjdą. Przed premierą dwójki przejdę główny wątek jedynki, tak żeby nie zabijać "kogoś tam" i mieć go w dwójce. Kilka razy kończyłem ME, więc nie wiem też, który zapis gry będzie przenoszony. Imo mają ciężkie zadanie, żeby zadowolić fanów.

[Mr_Zombie]

Wydaje mi się, Że raczej nie będą patrzeć na postacie trzecio- i dalszoplanowe, które nie miały większego wplywu na fabułę (typu np. ta Asari na Noverii, na którą moŻna nakablować do dyrektora); chodzi chyba raczej o postacie takie jak

Spoiler (kliknij, by wyświetlić/ukryć)

Ashley, Kaiden, Wrex oraz Radę

.

[bil-u]

Najbardziej szkoda mi tego, że z ME2 zrobią praktycznie strzelankę . Ja wiem, że walką ta gra stoi lecz mogliby troszke spuścić z tonu, bo obawiam się, że będzie to taki MGS w kosmosie tzn walczymy, walczymi i chwila na rozmowe a potem znowu sieka.

[Piter_neo]

Najbardziej szkoda mi tego, że z ME2 zrobią praktycznie strzelankę . Ja wiem, że walką ta gra stoi lecz mogliby troszke spuścić z tonu, bo obawiam się, że będzie to taki MGS w kosmosie tzn walczymy, walczymi i chwila na rozmowe a potem znowu sieka.

No po ostatnim trailerze i ja się tego obawiam.

[Unlimited]

..a ja jestem spokojny, ufam tym ludziom

[Mr_Zombie]

Pre-E3 2009: Mass Effect 2 -- The Choices You Made
The choices you made in the first game affect the entire trilogy.
by Hilary Goldstein

May 18, 2009 - Mass Effect 2 is one of the most anticipated games of E3. And with good reason. The original was an amazing role-playing game. One of the best elements of the original was the numerous choices you made. Who knew those decisions would have such a major impact on Mass Effect 2 and 3? We spoke with Mass Effect 2 Producer Casey Hudson, who assured us that every choice we made in the previous game matters for the sequel.

"We wanted to tell an interactive story over the course of three games," Hudson said. "So your choices don't just affect what's happening in the story, they affect all that's happening in the first game and really start impacting the world you experience in Mass Effect 2. And by Mass Effect 3 you'll see things really diverging and end up in completely different kinds of conclusions to the entire trilogy."

As evidenced by the debut trailer, the story gets a bit grim in the sequel. "We look at each game in the Mass Effect trilogy as a three-act story," Hudson said as he explained the darker nature of Mass Effect 2. "But then as a trilogy we have our three acts. So Mass Effect 2 is the dark act. It's an opportunity to really explore the tougher, more brutal parts of the universe. They say in the first act you put a guy in the tree, in the second act you throw rocks at him, and in the third act you get him down. That's the fun of the second story is that now we know who these characters are, we know what the situation is and we can really beat up the hero of this story and take you to the most brutal parts of the Mass Effect universe... In terms of Commander Shepard's death... we're going to be showing what that means at E3 and why it's fundamental to what Mass Effect 2 is all about."

Hudson concedes that the original Mass Effect wasn't exactly a cheery tale. "In the first game, it definitely introduces a lot of really dark ideas. That we think we're living a peaceful life, but all civilization in the galaxy is really a crop that has been seeded by a much more powerful force and they're going to come and harvest us. That's really dark. But you just get a peek into it in Mass Effect 1. In Mass Effect 2, it's about really exposing that and letting you see it and letting you see how scary that would be when it's on the scale we're talking about."

If you have a save for Mass Effect 1, it will affect many aspects when you play the sequel. "The beginning of Mass Effect 2 starts with things that are different for your playthrough if you ended Mass Effect 1 in one way versus another," Hudson explained. "The endings, the bigger choices you made about characters who lived or died, you're going to see those differences in your story. And that's the real fun of playing from your saved game from Mass Effect 1 into Mass Effect 2 is that those choices you made are there. It's the world the way you left it."

Hudson wouldn't cite any specific examples of decisions, but spoke vaguely about how your past choices will affect the events of Mass Effect 2. "[Let's say] in Mass Effect 1, you decided that a really important character is going to die. In Mass Effect 2, you may or may not see that character alive, depending on what that choice was. If you want to see how that would be different, you would have to go back to Mass Effect 1, make a different choice and then bring that save into Mass Effect 2 to see how it affects the world." More important than a single character, at one point in the first Mass Effect, you chose whether or not to save an entire race from extinction. That is sure to have a profound affect in the sequel. "The fun for players is that it's not just a branching story, it's a multi-dimensional story and then there is branching within that. If you have not played Mass Effect 1, you can jump into Mass Effect 2 and it's an excellent entry point."

Take a behind-the-scenes look at Mass Effect 2.
While it's a bit premature for Hudson to give too many specific gameplay improvements, he did touch on one area BioWare is giving particular attention. "[People] like exploring the galaxy so much, they wanted it to be richer. They wanted there to be more. When you go out and explore the galaxy, we've actually built in a lot more interactivity. The way you look at a planet, the way you find a place to land. And when you're out on the surface, [there's a] lot more interesting things to do. In Mass Effect 1, you would do a subplot and then things would terminate. In Mass Effect 2, everything you do really ties into the way things come into fruition in the end. If you do go off and explore the galaxy, you do a subplot, these things start to really matter to the people you are accumulating on your ship. As you get towards the end [of the game], your decisions really start to snowball."

One thing that won't be changing is the game's length. Expect Mass Effect 2 to be about as long as the original. Hudson promises that there will be more replayability this time around. "There are more choices and more paths that you can go out and diverge the story into," he said. And remember, the choices from Mass Effect 1 and 2 will carry into Mass Effect 3.

Be sure to keep an eye on IGN's E3 index for Mass Effect 2 news as it breaks.

IGN

[Niebieski]

Czy tylko ja uważam patent z ciągłością historii,za coś mega kozackiego?

[Krzysiu]

Czy tylko ja uważam patent z ciągłością historii,za coś mega kozackiego?

A to nie jest tak w prawie każdej serii RPG? 

Chyba, że chodzi Ci o używanie poprzedniego save'a .

[Mr_Zombie]

Czy tylko ja uważam patent z ciągłością historii,za coś mega kozackiego?

Jeżeli zostanie to dobrze rozegrane, to tak.
Szczególnie, że może dojść do tego, że żeby np. zobaczyć jakieś alternatywne rozwiązanie fabuły będzie trzeba wrócić do ME i przejść grę innym sposobem.

[Unlimited]

Dla mnie to mega patent

[_ReD_]

Takie rozwiazanie jest naprawde bardzo fajne, chcac poznac inne zakonczenie trzeba bedzie prawdopodobnie zaczac grac od nowa w czesc pierwsza, druga, trzecia dokonujac za kazdym razem innych wyborow Z tego co pamietam to ME ma byc trylogia prawda? Wiec raczej wszystkie czesci musza ukazac sie na tej eneracji zeby to mialo sens, chyba ze na nastepca x0 bedzie mogl korzystac ze starych saveow

[Mr_Zombie]

PoniŻej znaduje się okładka najnowszego OXM oraz informacje z artykułu z tego numeru; jest tam trochę informacji, które co poniektórzy moga uznać za spoiler (szczególnie sama okładka) więc jak ktoś chce przeczytać, to wiecie, gdzie kliknąć .

Spoiler (kliknij, by wyświetlić/ukryć)

Na forum Mass Effect jeden z uŻytkowników wypisał mniej więcej interesujące informacje z artykułu (niestety, nie ma skanów; ale pewnie się wkrótce pokaŻą na sieci ).

Details from the OXM Issue (Hunter 192 from Mass Effect community):

well there are alot of screen shots of the game, one of them is the interior of the Normandy which looks bigger and different. if anyone has questions i would be glad to answer them

ok yes it is the Normandy, and the special geth is from the first teaser trailer, and lead cinematics animator Parrish Ley thinks people will really connect with him (wut?)

ok you know that wallpaper with the giant blue space station thats the main Cerberus outpost, we also visit an asari planet called Illium which has skyscrapers and whatnot, and also Omega station

As for the asari planet, I believe that the GDC footage showing the flying cars and skyscrapers are the same since there is a screenshot of the same place.

And about Shepard, well according to the magazine we definitely play as Shepard for at least a decent chunk of the game.

New Character:

And as for Thane, he is a possible party member and will be shown in action during an assassination, you'll see how his performance might tempt you to recruit him.

im sorry but that all it said about Shepard, although it said that there are human colonies literally disappearing all around the galaxy, and Shepard's the man or woman for the job,even though Shepard been told its a suicde mission.

it also said that if you were particularly extreme about going Paragon or Renegade in both games, there would be extra-special endings.

as for Shepard OXM stated that part about how much we play as Shepard, Casey Hudson said and i quote "Shepard appears much bigger and more powerful, and he's presented in adarker,grittier style". "This is all part of the game's high-action descent into the darkest, most brutal parts of the Mass Effect universe".

ok here is the article that said that, Sweet, he just confirmed Mass Effect 3! But,um,what about Shepard? BioWare's keeping his exact fate a secret until E3, but we saw a lot of the early portion of Mass Effect 2 in our visit,and you definitely play as Shepard for at least a decent chunk of the game.

well it didnt say much about our old squadmates, but it did mention a few of them though no names were given, also Casey Huson stated that Joker would return in Mass Effect 2 as will a lot of main characters from Mass Efeect 1.

There was also a screenshot of a krogan, who's friends call him Grunt, but everyone else best not call him at all.

also along with Thane, the OXM crew were introduced to another potential new party member,A tough but clever salarian scientist, who's the Clint Eastwood of scientists.

also they were talking about a few weapons from the game, one weapon dissolves an enemy into a pile of dust, while the other which everyone called the "nuke gun" unleashes room-clearing nuclear fire.

Also secondary races like the volus and elcor are no longer stuck in a place,you'll see them moving around levels, which "makes things a little bit more interesting" says Hudson.

Mass Effect 1 DLC

There was a little info about dlc, but nothing major i will quote Casey, "We are definitely working on a substantial new DLC. We're finishing it up and making sure that it's going to be really good, and then we'll announce it, probably pretty. That'll be the last thing between Mass Effect 1 and 2 in terms of content.

Not a lot of info about the drell or Thane,except that they look amphilbious, and that Thane is a smooth,suave character, in one screenshot Thane came up behind a human and broke his neck.

The magazine also showed a male quarian with what looks like medium or heavy armor and looks awesome.

well not a lot of pictures of planets in the magazine, but they did show omega station and the main Cerberus outpost. as for uncharted planets Casey said and i quote, We decided to really improve a lot of the points of interaction throughout that experience. We'll be showing this at E3, but there's more [going on] when you're in orbit ,looking at [a planet], scanning, and ridingdown to the surface. And there's a much stronger focus on really rich, interesting set-piece location.

in a short article they explained what there going to show at E3, 1 whether Shepard is really dead, 2 new transit system, 3 uncharted-worlds exploration, 4 who you ultimately play as, 5 more info on Thane.

the new transit system is replacing the old elevators loading screen.

Pictures description:

one picture has 3 of our newest enemy those assault mechs from the prelude E3 video, the other is the interior of the SSV Normandy what looks like Shepards quarters but its larger and different from ME1, even has a scale model of the Normandy in the room, the next one has Thane sneaking up behind a human and breaking his neck, a pic of Omega station and the main Cerberus outpost, and the last ones are showing Shepard,a krogan called Grunt, and a male quarian.

the Shepard shown in the magazine is indeed the default male Shepard, and he does not appear to be beat-up like the front cover. And Omega Station is set in an astroid field, the station itself the top half is a mined out astroid, while the lower half is a long tube most likley where the docking bays, stores and other stuff is.

Normandy Interior:

I dont know, they only showed one screenshot of the interior, but its indeed much larger than in ME1, from the pic im assuming its Shepards private quarters and its 2 to 3 times larger than his old quarters, it looks really awesome.

they did mention the Mako saying its a different vehicle and moves in a different way which they are revealing later, and no they said nothing about how many party members we will have.

Another Summary

- You WILL play as Shepard, but for how long we don't know
- There is a new species called the Drell and Thane is a new character who is an assassin and may join your party
- Planets - There will be a Krogan planet, and Illium, an Asari planet, that is like Coruscant from SW. Also there is "Omega" with is like an anti-Citadel in that it's huge and it's the bottom of the barrel whereas the Citadel is the height of civilization. Also a Cerebus mothership will act as a location of significance.
- Story - The ultimate story is still civilization fending off the Reapers, but this chapter will deal with this Cerebus corporation and it's enigmatic leader. There are human civilizations disapearing and it's up to Shepard to investigate, it's termed as a "suicide mission" which may lead to the details of the teaser.
- New vehicle that controls better than the Mako...a "new" control scheme....motion control maybe?
- Totally revamped inventory system!
- Elevator system revamped where you will get the sense of scope of where you're at and where you're travelling.
- NO MORE TEXTURE POP IN!
- Secondary races like Volus and Elcor are much more mobile, giving more depth and makes things more interesting.
- Choices are more meaningful and there is a real risk that major support characters (i.e. anyone not Shepard) can and will die.
- Also on the story, they're super-hyping the ending, saying that it's much more grand meaningful in ME2. ME1 had one of the most impacting endings ever, how the hell are they gonna pull this off?
- More weapons, more species, more/new team members.
- returning team members, locations, weapons.

All in all, an excellent article. I tried to capture the most important news. It's really a giant tease for E3.

Oh, and they say there will be one more DLC for ME1, which should be announced soon!

[Zielarz]

Człowiek nie zagląda do tematu przez kilka dni, a tu tyle się dzieje . Szkoda tylko, że nie mam już siły pisać kolejnego długiego newsa  .

[Unlimited]

Dla mnie to na chwilę obecną największy AS M$, za nic nie sprzedam tej konsoli póki tej sagi nie przejdę, to nawet FF mnie tak nie wciągnęło, jak ta seria

[Zielarz]

Ja w sumie też oczekuje teraz na 360-kę głównie ME2 i Alan Wake. Nie mogę jednak przeboleć, że raczej obie te gry nie ukażą się w tym roku . Po E3 może lista się rozrośnie i coś jeszcze dojdzie równie interesującego (oby w tym roku).

[FAX]

DLC będzie, więc nie jest tak źle 

[Wojtq]

Skany z OXM - paczka z pdf'ami.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2CF31EMV

[adriano]

E3 09: Exclusive Teaser

[Zielarz]

I o to chodziło . Po sesji zabieram się ponownie za część pierwszą :].

[Unlimited]

Krótki, ale i tak piękny Już nie mogę się doczekać!!!

[adriano]

To jest strzelanina TPP, tak?

[Unlimited]

To jest strzelanina TPP, tak?

To jest najlepszy action-rpg jaki powstał w ciągu ostatnich lat Mnie nawet seria FF tak nie wciągnęła jak ta saga.

[Rafael25PL]

Nawet fajnie wygląda, Ale i tak najbardziej czekam na Alan Wake jeśli chodzi o xboxa360

[Mr_Zombie]

To jest strzelanina TPP, tak?

Nie, to action-RPG.
A sam trailer przepiękny. Widać, Że pod względem technicznym gra ruszyła do przodu.

[Rafael25PL]

To jest strzelanina TPP, tak?

Nie, to action-RPG.
A sam trailer przepiękny. Widać, że pod względem technicznym gra ruszyła do przodu.

Ale nadal niestety to UE3 a szkoda. Alan graficznie go zje.

[Unlimited]

Jednak patentami już niekoniecznie, przypominam że nasze zabiegi z części pierwszej mają istotny wpływ na kontynuację, póki co to jedyna gra na next geny która oferuję tak zajebisty patent

[Mappet]

Jednak patentami już niekoniecznie, przypominam że nasze zabiegi z części pierwszej mają istotny wpływ na kontynuację, póki co to jedyna gra na next geny która oferuję tak zajebisty patent

Miejmy nadzieje ze nie jest to jedynie czcze gadanie.Jesli się nad tym zastanowić,to może to być faktycznie mała rewolucja.Z drugiej strony ciekawi mnie jak chcą podejść do graczy ktorzy przygode z MS,zaczną dopiero od drugiej części.